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Unity or Disunity?

Posted by nebula0 on March 24, 2010

Oftentimes it is the groups which seem the closest to us in beliefs that cause us the most concern.  The reason that so many Christian groups have ‘anti Mormon’ missions is just because of that.  Mormons use the Bible, so do they.  Mormons talk about Jesus Christ, so do they.  But the differences are also as great and these Christians want to find a way to emphasize that to their members and outsiders.  What would relieve this tension?

At this point, I can only speak for myself.  Despite the fact that in theory Mormons and I both share a battle against secularists and the atheist movement which has tried to take over the public sphere, I cannot endorse Mormonism.  The main issue, which I have spoken about elsewhere on this blog, is a theological one, the nature of God.  If Mormonism became truly monotheistic, not even necessarily trinitarian, I would feel more comfortable.   Other issues which I find personally bothersome, such as the undue emphasis on obedience to the hierarchy I could file away as an issue for Mormons in-house deal with.  That is one reason I would not be a Mormon but not a real reason for me to hesitate over whether or not to call Mormons Christian and therefore on my team.  But the nature of God is too fundamental. 

Mormons will always get grief from some, if for no other reason than there are a lot of jerks out there.  But Mormons already have a notion of the necessity of Christ for salvation which is surely a basic ingredient to any Christianity.  They need only now abandon their early theology in an official and public way that God the Father is one of us, all grown up, and I think they will find themselves more fully embraced into the Christian world.  The reality is, most Mormons are pretty well monotheists anyway and it’s only a matter of time that, if for no other reason than ignorance of Mormon theology, Mormonism as a belief system will officially register this change.


3 Responses to “Unity or Disunity?”

  1. Sam said

    I don’t think anything in Mormon theology ever suggests that God ever progressed from a state of sinfulness or imperfection to the status of God, if that is what anyone is suggesting. To believe that God the Father has a body, which is the underlying argument here I think, has no bearing on his character as God. If I believe that, I would have to believe that Jesus Christ is not God because he was born into a body.

    God the Father was and is a perfect being just as Jesus Christ exemplified. “The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do; for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.” John 5:19. If God the Father went through the whole human experience, he did it perfectly. His Godhood and perfection are never in question. Christians don’t have a problem with Jesus Christ claiming to be one with God, yet you can argue that he was one of us. So what’s the problem to think that the Father has a body and that he gained it the same way Jesus did, or any one else of us? From an eternal perspective Jesus Christ took a body, not because he dreamed it up in his mind one day to do it, but he did it because the Father did it before him. And, Jesus lived a perfect life because that’s what the Father did. Jesus is the perfect example of the Father on this earth to us.

    I think, through all eternity, no matter if we are gods over our own worlds or universes, we will always point our children to God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit as eternally perfect beings. We can become perfect, but it is only the Godhead who can actually claim to have been eternally perfect. And, I think, Mormons who think they will become the one and supreme being over planets are glorifying themselves no different than what they preach Lucifer to have done before the world was made. Instead, we may have planets and children on those planets but the glory will be to Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit forever because they will have proven, in the end, to have been eternally perfect. Jesus Christ will forever be our Saviour. Heavenly Father will forever be our father who picked us out of the mass of eternal intelligence and gave us spheres of existence from which we can act. And the Spirit will forever be revered as our comforter and teacher and everything else he does for us when we’ve needed it.

    • nebula0 said

      I agree that Mormon theology is simply unclear about what the nature of the Father was, but that he became God at some point is clearly articulated. THat alone suggests imperfection to many people- God wasn’t always God. I suppose the matter is one of ontological imperfection (not always perfect in being) rather than moral imperfection (having moral guilt).

  2. J said


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